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This is a blog about lung cancer survival statistics One of the first instincts that kicks in for almost all of us who have been devastated with a (lung) cancer diagnosis is to ask how long have we left to live. Any web search for survival rates returns dismal statistics and it is hard not to panic or at least get quite demoralized. When I told friends about my recent incidental diagnosis, one of them responded with utter shock but added “oh listen, my sister was given 3 months but lived 4 years” (I believe her sister had breast cancer). I am sure she meant well and was basing her comment on what Googling lung cancer survival returns so was trying to make me feel better. I was stunned and did not know how to react to her comment about being given 3 months etc, after all my kid is 6 years old and as much as me living any day now is a blessing, 4 years is still a horrifically short time for a 49 year old mom to have left with her family. With my initial panic and despair easing a bit now, a month after my lobectomy, and 2 months after that nodule was captured in an incidental scan, I started reading a bit more about lung cancer, including statistics. In this post, I will try to parse what some of the survival statistics and their differences. If you simply want a summary and no detail, you can stop reading here and jump to the summary! I wondered about the subtle but important differences in survival rate definitions after reading a blog post by our forum’s Tom Galli about lung cancer statistics. Tom happened to mention that the cause of death was not factored into the commonly cited survival rates. That assertion very much surprised me since, at least for lung cancer, the average age of diagnosis is around 70 so there is likely to be quite a bit competing causes of death that I would have expected survival statistics to take into account: e.g., did the lung cancer patient also have heart disease and died of a heart attack? vascular disease and died of a stroke? This prompted me to take a deeper look into what exactly is being reported as survival rates. Before getting into some of those, a disclaimer that all 5- and 10-year survival statistics for lung cancer are (by definition) out of date so do not reflect the reality of the last few years. This is very important since lung cancer treatment has dramatically changed/improved over the last few years. Therefore, as you read some of the material cited below, keep in mind that these numbers are OLD and thus may not be as relevant to us patients living with lung cancer in 2022. Different cancer survival statistics exist [Ref. 1] . Some are best suited for research and policy while other are better for prognosis and clinical decision making. For simplicity, I will list 3 such measures: Overall survival: Ratio of (the number of lung cancer patients who remain alive 5 years after diagnosis) to (the number of lung cancer patients). Some also call this the all-cause survival, observed survival or crude survival. Relative survival: Ratio of (the overall survival of lung cancer patients) to (the overall survival for similar but cancer-free population, matched by age, sex and race). Cause-specific survival: Ratio of (the number of lung cancer patients who are not dead from their lung cancer 5 years after diagnosis) to (the number of lung cancer patients). I had assumed 3 (cause-specific survival) is what is always being quoted in statistics but quickly learned that this is not the case. In fact some report 1 (overall survival) though most report 2 (relative survival) but almost no one reports 3 (cause-specific survival). Relative survival can be overestimated, e.g., when a healthy screened effect exists, as was demonstrated in the Prostate, Lung, Colorectal, and Ovarian (PLCO) Cancer Screening Trial, where participants in this screening trial had 30%–50% lower mortality rates for heart disease, injury, and kidney disease than expected. Relative survival can also be underestimated, e.g., smoker lung cancer patients typically have lower life expectancy than the general population because they have higher risks of death from many other cancers, as well as from heart disease. For prognosis, one would need a survival measure of the net effect of a lung cancer diagnosis, in other words, the chance of surviving assuming the lung cancer was the only possible cause of death. This is very hard to measure. Cause of death is often not accurately captured. Even if it was, the question is, will that matter much in terms of end result? Turns out the answer is not quite simple: It may matter for some cancers but not much for other cancers. A Nature paper studied this very question by including competing causes of death and reporting the 10-year cause-specific vs. relative survival for lung, breast, prostate, ovary, oesophagus and colorectal cancers [Ref. 2]. I highlight a few findings from this study: Though relative survival is usually preferable to use, for some cancers (like lung and prostate cancer), relative survival is inaccurate. For cancers of the lung, relative survival was lower than cause-specific survival. In fact, for all cancers except breast and prostate, relative survival was lower than cause-specific with particularly large differences observed for lung cancer, ovarian cancer and colorectal cancer. For lung cancer, when the population hazard was inflated for smoking, survival estimates were increased (since smoking is a strong confounder for survival from all causes). Error between the 2 survival measures vary for lung cancer, say for 45-54 year olds, cause-specific survival was 25% higher than relative survival. Note that this was not stratified for stage etc so hard to really use for personal prognosis. Solutions to such error/discrepancy may include adding other demographic variables than age and sex, and to stratify relative survival calculation by cause of death. Summary: Currently cited lung cancer survival numbers are outdated. They do not include the years that saw dramatic improvements in how lung cancer has been more effectively treated with new therapies. Relative survival rate is commonly reported. These statistics do not take into account for actual cause of death. For lung cancer, this was shown to lower actual survival rate measures below what they really are. With the above caveats, if you still want to check/consider/use available (old) survival numbers, make sure to at least look at statistics relevant to you, e.g., find the rates related to your own age, stage, sex, cancer sub-type, smoking history etc. Lung cancer is still terrible and has much worse survival by any measure than say breast cancer but we are individuals so medians and means do not represent us as individual patients. Currently little is known as to where we are on the patient distribution curve, are we to the left or the right of the mean, by how much, we don't know yet. I personally found this SEER Explorer App useful (SEER is the Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results Program, which provides information on cancer statistics) [Ref. 3]. You can look up some stratified numbers, including 5-year survival and conditional survival (conditioned on the patient having already survived 0, 1, 3, or 5 years since the cancer diagnosis). Remember, even there, the numbers are old (covering years 2012-2018) and some criteria is missing, say smoking history. Tom ends his messages with: stay the course. I am ending my blog with: don’t live as a statistic (admittedly, I am still trying to abide by that). [Ref. 1] . https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4829054/ [Ref. 2]. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41416-020-0739-4 [Ref. 3]. https://seer.cancer.gov/statistics-network/explorer/application.html?site=612&data_type=4&graph_type=5&compareBy=age_range&chk_age_range_122=122&series=9&sex=1&race=2&stage=105&advopt_precision=1&advopt_show_ci=on&advopt_display=2
So my mother who is stage iv with metastasis to liver finally told me the truth about her diagnosis. she originally told me there was one tumor in one lung and a small spot in her liver and they didn't give her any idea of her survival rate. today she told me there are several small spots on 1 lung and then the small one in her liver. she has had 4 treatments of keytruda and the first scan looked good. her doc only did a scan this early because he was concerned because her voice had become hoarse, but he said nothing more is concerning him right now. she is due for another scan in a few weeks and has finally agreed to let me go with her and ask questions. What are some things I should be asking? one thing I want to ask, but maybe it's a stupid question is If the cancer is primarily the small spot in her liver and the small one in her kidney, why isn't surgery an option in the future? if the keytruda can get rid of the cancer in her liver, is a lung removal an option? Why isnt she beng given traditional chemo along with the keytruda as that seems like a common treatment option?She truly feels like she only has 2 years because he mentioned that he can't promise she will be here longer. I've tried to tell her this isn't an expiration date and that he told her that before she was ever tested for keytruda. Am I wrong to give her hope at this stage? She is only 53. She is still very healthy. she goes to work every day and aside from feeling tired after treatment, she seems fine right now. she even gained all her weight back in the last few weeks. Thank you in advance for any suggestions.