kimblanchard Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hi, I am looking for a Chinese Herbalist or other non traditional treatment for NSCLC to compliment my husband's chemo. Does anyone here know of a good herbalist in New York? I am in Westchester county. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 You can try this website DR. Chang is one of the best in the country for Chinese herbal treatments. All of his contact info is on the right hand side of the screen. the even do phone and email consultations(sp). http://www.meridianmedical.org/about_us ... d_facp.htm He also performs additional therapies that i have detailed in previous posts. Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junelusd Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Christina: I was looking for alternative treatment for my daddy who just diagnosed Lung Cancer, NSCLC, stage IV in June, 2003. And found Dr. Sun's Selected Vegetable Soup. I found one review paper for Dr. Sun's soup on National Cancer Institution's website, here is the link: http://www.meb.uni-bonn.de/cancer.gov/C ... 85728.html I contacted Sun Farmer Corp. which is established by Dr. Sun, and got some material from them. My daddy started to take the soup about twenty days ago, at the main time, he is taking the chemo. He finished his second rounds about 11 days ago. I can hardly tell the effect of the soup now, they told me it usually takes about 3 - 6 month to see the results. But since my daddy is also taking the chemo, it is really hard to say which one is more effective. Dr. Sun's soup is pretty expensive, about 600/per month. But if you can afford it, it is no harm to just give Chris a try. The website for Dr. Sun's soup is: http://www.sunfarmcorp.com June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 This site is NOT a NCI designated site. Look at the address it is from Germany. The site even says that it is not endorsed by NCI. The fact they have copied the NCI logo would be me suspect of this soup. This is my personal opinion - I would not pay this much for soup. " Reference citations in some PDQ CAM information summaries may include links to external Web sites that are operated by individuals or organizations for the purpose of marketing or advocating the use of specific treatments or products. These reference citations are included for informational purposes only. Their inclusion should not be viewed as an endorsement of the content of the Web sites, or of any treatment or product, by the PDQ Cancer CAM Editorial Board or NCI." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junelusd Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Sorry, I was in a hurry this morning, so I did search for Sun's soup through google, and paste the web address. The same article you can find at: http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/pdq/ca ... ofessional I also found an abstract in PubMed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract I was hesitated to buy the soup, coz it is very expensive. But my daddy really does not have much choice, besides the chemo, what else can we choose? Even with the chemo, the doctor said he probably only has 12 - 18 month to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junelusd Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Also I found one in NIH CAM site: http://nccam.nih.gov/about/advisory/cap ... y.html#p10 It was 1999 meeting, I think Dr. Sun made a speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 It looks fairly good. Unfortunately, the information say there are 3 different formulations and like all supplements there is no way to know if you are getting the correct one. Is that one manufacturer you posted the "real" thing. In any case it probably won't hurt and it seems like there is some evidence that it could help. I just am still a little skeptical about the price and why they don't disclose the ingredients. Hopefully there will be a trial that is designed well that will answer the question about its effectiveness. There is a small level of evidence that reishi/shitake/maitake and other mushrooms may help. Astragalus is an herb that may boost the immune system and of course echinea (sp?). I just posted an article about lycopene (which is found in tomatoes and watermelon) that helps fight prostrate cancer and maybe other cancers. Isoflavones like genstein from soy are supposed to also help. In anycase I hope it works for you and whoever tries this. Thanks for the post ... I'm still not completely convinced considering the cost, but it may be worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 one thing people need to consider is that Connecticut Institute for Aging and Cancer, Milford 06460, USA sponsored one of the trials. I assume that sunfarm and this institute are related, even if the sunfarm website says they are not related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 http://www.dianadyermsrd.com/FAQs/FAQ60.htm http://www.cancerguide.org/sun_soup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junelusd Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 John: Thanks for your efforts to find others' opion on Sun Soup. I actually read those two articles, but did not save the link. My daddy is currently on the Chemo and the Soup, he is doing OK. The biggest tumor on his scalp is shrinking by half size, and two small one have gone. But he still got three or four small sites on the skin of his neck. We don't know his lung's condition now, he is going to have his third round of chemo next Wednesday. And after that, he will have CT scan again. The price for the Sun Soup is: $650/month + $30 shipping fee (this is for dry soup) $600/month + $30 shipping fee (this is for the liquid soup) I was told if I order next time, I can get some discount, though I don't know how much they will give me. I was struggling for long time to decide if I would buy or not. There are so many alternative treatments, don't know which one to choose. And Sun Soup is extremely expensive. Finally, I said, "Well, just give him a try!". I will continue to post my daddy's condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Institute of East-West Medicine located in NYC has a website www.eastwestmed.org. Or call 212 683-1221. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 It's possible that it will work (the sun soup). It may work based on the ingredients or based on placebo - If your dad thinks it is helping or you convince him that is helping then it may be worth it. You could always make your own soup with maitake/shitake mushrooms and maybe even add reishi and astragalus powder from the pills found at health stores. Then add some of the other ingredients listed on the sun soup Praying it works for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wang Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Hi, Good to see everyone. I am new. My father's lc also new. I come to see you as I try to find info.about Sun's soup. Because in all chinese, I saw that this soup has been under tests of USA's FDA clinical test. Passed first 2 phase, and still undergoing 3rd phase. I wrote a letter to FDA to ask this Sun Farm Corp.'s Selected Vegetables, they said there is no such kind of drug being approved. 600$ is a little too expensive. My father also started to take anther "famous" herbal medicine 3 days ago. Doctor said to him, this medicine could only be effective if my father has a good mood and confident&calm heart. I do believe that. Any information, I would like to share with you from now on. Msn would be better for comunication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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