[Officially stage 4 as of yesterday]

janet,

I was just trying to help you. I am not a doctor, and agree that the health care system in the US sucks, but I also don't believe that they lie just to get your money, I think rather they have to give the worst case senario, and with treatment many people live, so you do what is right for you, but I hope you can work through this anger because I don't imagine you want to live the rest of your life mad and also having your kids see you like this.

The other thing is, do something about it. Write to Oprah, write a book, start a lung cancer walk, or run to help people like yourself. Being angry and bitter doesn't help people, maybe write to your governor, or the president about the health care system, use your anger to help others.

I hope God does bless you and your family and I apologize if my posts made you more mad, I was just trying to help. I believe God gives us opertunities to help our selves and I also believe He works in mysterious ways, and maybe your oncologist isn't the lying sack of crap you think he is.

BIG HUGS to you!

[A man and woman are driving...]

A man and a woman are driving down the same road at the same time.

As they pass each other the woman leans out the window, points and yells, “PIG! ”

The man immediately leans out his window, shakes his fist and shouts back, “WITCH!"

They each continue on their way, and as the man rounds the next corner, he slams into a pig that had wandered into the middle of the road.

If only men would listen

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[Good News for Judy B]

Sorry if news of Judy B is taking over the board, but I am so happy I can't tell you. She is my mother, my best friend, my support, my everything.

She had her surgery on Tuesday Sept 16th, and it went extremely well. She had two vertebre removed and has a plate in her back, and now is home. *fast* she waked today to the mailbox, and is starting physical therapy. I have every confidence she will be back to herself soon. As it has been less than a week, I am surprised she is up so fast.

This is all great news, two weeks ago, they said they couldn't do surgery and the prognosis(spell?) wasn't good, so this is great news.

Thank you for all your prayers and support,

Stephanie for Judy B

[Judy B]

Mom is home and I talked to her today. She is doing well, and as of today they will start chemo to make sure they got it all out, or to get the rest out. I think there was some concern over no margin? I am not sure what that means, but she now has a steal plate in her back, I am sure that will screw up an MRI, maybe I am in denial, but I like to think they got it all and she will be fine.

She misses everyone and I will try to be her voice for a while and keep you all updated.

Thanks for all the prayers and thoughts.

Send cards to her at her house if you want

1170 West Las Lomitas Tucson AZ 85704

Did I already post that here? Sorry I am becoming Mom, as I am repeating myself.

Cheers Stephanie

[Officially stage 4 as of yesterday]

There was a man who lived in a house.

One day there was a flood, and the house was filling up with water, and fast.

Well a truck came by and the driver yelled to the man, "get in and I'll drive you out of here!"

The man replied, "No thank you, God will save me"

Then after and hour or so the house was full to the second floor, and a boat came by and the captin said, "Come on board and I will take you to dry land."

The man replied, "No thank you, God will save me."

Then the house was completely covered by water and the man was sitting on the roof, and a helicopter came by, and the pilot yelled down to the man, "I'm dropping a latter get on and I'll take you to safety"

Again the man replied, "No thank you, God will save me."

Of course the man drowned, and when he got to Heavan and met God, he said, "Why didn't you save me?"

God said, "What are you talking about? I sent you a car, a boat and a helicopter"

[Having the talk with dad]

Your Dad sounds like mine. He only has bladder cancer and it is minor compared to Mom's lung cancer, but he still smokes like a chimney, and it took us "tough love" to get him to stop drinking and also get treatment for the cancer. He still doesn't really acknowledge the fact that he has cancer.

So what I did right after Sept 11,(because he was so drunk and in the hosiptal with cancer and other problems that he didn't even know Sept 11th happened) is write him a nasty letter, well a hard letter telling him to starighten up his crap, because Cris (my sister) and I couldn't handle loosing him too. (we lost our brother earlier in the year, non cancer related) and so it took tough love to get him to starighten up. This was just before we found out our Mom (judy had lung cancer.

I don't know your dad, but I think you need to tell him staright out, look Dad you need to quit the smoking and let us know what is going on!

Good luck, I know it is hard, but sometimes our parents need us to become the parents for a bit.

Stephanie

[Officially stage 4 as of yesterday]

Dear Janet,

Oh my God, your post, I don't know what to say, but I am going to try this. My mother, Judy B, was told they couldn't operate in 2002, and that she would probably die soon, and she forced them to operate and she is still around, also she wasn't going to do Chemo or radiation, just like yourself, becasue why be so sick the last months of your life? I understand that, but she did it and did survive, yes it came back and yes she just went through surgery again and again the odds are against her.

I guess the point is, if there is "any" chance to survive, then try it. Get a second opinion, a third, a fourth, anything.

I wish I could help you, and I wish there was a cure, but for now all we can do is fight and pray, and lean on each other.

Please think about it. I know it is hard and easy to be so angry, and I am there with ya, I get it , I do, and you are not your family, they might have not been successful in their treatment, but you might be, and if you give up now, you'll never know.

My heart goes out to you and your children and please think about it.

Stephanie

[JUDYB UPDATE]

I talked to Mom, Jusy B this morning, and she is doing great, She sounds great and from what I hear she looks great to. My stepbrother Russell said they will be out playing golf soon! *hahahha* Anyhow she is thinking about everyone here, and wants me to keep giving updates and anything I can do for her, so if you need someone to email etc, please feel free. I am not as witty as Mom, but I can try to help out.

My heart is in the right place.

So she is going to get chemo and then she will live to be an old lady, or so the doctor said! I think she will be. she sure is an inspiration and I told her not to scare us like that again, and she said she won't *hahha*

send cards if you want to Judy B 1170 West Las Lomitas Tucson, AZ 85704

as she can't really eamil yet, but she is walking and everyday getting stronger.

Thanks for all the support.

Stephanie for Judy B

[Hi all! I am JudyB's Daughter... (new to this board)]

Hello everyone,

I talked to Mom this morning (Sat) and she sounds amazingly well. Her spirits are up and she has a positive attitude. She said she even walked to the mail box! Wow! She is a fighter. I didn't keep her on the phone too long, but she wants everyone to know that she is thinking about you, and Katie? Katy? (I'm sorry I don't know how to find you) She said she has been thinking about you and your Dad, and she sends her love!

Thanks for all the support everyone and I will keep you posted.

Stephanie for Judy B

[Judy B]

Hello all, I just spoke to Cris and it looks like Mom is going home today, Friday, they did an MRI, but now that she has a plate in her spine it is hard to read the MRI, so we think they are going to do Chemo to be sure.

I havent' spoken to Mom yet, and I think she is still groggy, but all in all she is doing well, as she is a fighter! So if you want to send cards, she would love it, send them to her at

1170 West Las Lomitas Tucson, AZ 85704

thanks for all the support and love and prayers.

Stephanie for Judy B

[Update on Judy]

Hello all, I just spoke to Cris and it looks like Mom is going home today, Friday, they did an MRI, but now that she has a plate in her spine it is hard to read the MRI, so we think they are going to do Chemo to be sure.

I havent' spoken to Mom yet, and I think she is still groggy, but all in all she is doing well, as she is a fighter! So if you want to send cards, she would love it, send them to her at

1170 West Las Lomitas Tucson, AZ 85704

thanks for all the support and love and prayers.

Stephanie for Judy B

[Hi all! I am JudyB's Daughter... (new to this board)]

Hello all, I just spoke to Cris and it looks like Mom is going home today, Friday, they did an MRI, but now that she has a plate in her spine it is hard to read the MRI, so we think they are going to do Chemo to be sure.

I havent' spoken to Mom yet, and I think she is still groggy, but all in all she is doing well, as she is a fighter! So if you want to send cards, she would love it, send them to her at

1170 West Las Lomitas Tucson, AZ 85704

thanks for all the support and love and prayers.

Stephanie for Judy B

[Update on Judy]

Hello all, this is stephanie one of Judy's daughters, I don't know why but I can't ever log in, so I have created another alias, but I used the same name, so it is me, anyhow if you want to email me directly please use stephnewyork32@aol.com

Mom's surgery went well and she is in recovery. Cris called me at about 11 pm on the pacific coast with the news. The had to remove two vertebre and put in a plate. She is able to move her arms and legs at this time.

This is very good news and she will have an MRI to make sure the got it all out with the surgery.

All your thoughts and prayers made a big difference and I will do my best to keep you posted and do updates.

It is late and I am going to try to sleep. Thank you again and bless you all. She still won't be online for a little while, but we will do what we can to be in touch with all of you as I know how important you all are to mom.

[Hi all! I am JudyB's Daughter... (new to this board)]

Hello all, this is stephanie one of Judy's daughters, I don't know why but I can't ever log in, so I have created another alias, but I used the same name, so it is me, anyhow if you want to email me directly please use stephnewyork32@aol.com

Mom's surgery went well and she is in recovery. Cris called me at about 11 pm on the pacific coast with the news. The had to remove two vertebre and put in a plate. She is able to move her arms and legs at this time.

This is very good news and she will have an MRI to make sure the got it all out with the surgery.

All your thoughts and prayers made a big difference and I will do my best to keep you posted and do updates.

It is late and I am going to try to sleep. Thank you again and bless you all. She still won't be online for a little while, but we will do what we can to be in touch with all of you as I know how important you all are to mom.