Karel

Dear bean_si, so sorry to read about your report. Please keep swimming; your posts have always been so helpful and positive. Perhaps this is a time to concentrate on non-orthodox treatment like IP6, curcumin, caesium etc. Best wishes, Karel.

Larry, you will not notice any great changes. Transfer Factor is meant to strengthen our immune system and help the body deal with infections and hopefully also tumour cells. Because it is usually only one of many "adjunct" treatments an individual may use it is difficult to evaluate. Rachel has been using it for about 6 months along with an array of antioxidants, IP6 and Inositol, and Rife and she is doing well. I certainly do not see how it could harm you. Best wishes, Karel.

Bean-si, What a relief to see an intelligible post from you; the few recent ones seemed to be in code. Hope you are well. My wife is using Transfer Factor as well as several antioxidants. We are starting her to use IP6 with Innositol as well. Lots of best wishes, Karel.

Dave s. I have come across the idea of short term stimulation of the cancer cells once before - I think it might even have been our oncologist. Not belonging to the orthodox stream of thought she did no more than that. Meets common sense criteria 'though, doesn't it? Bean-si, I truly was not trying to imply that the idea of widely present cancer cells in healthy individuals was mine. However, it does need wider acceptance. Work is being done on provoking an immune response by vaccines, and one day we should also discover how cancer cells are able to hoodwink the immune system into accepting them as normal, and correcting it. Best wishes, Karel

Actually the way I understood the carbohydrate question is as follows: Cancer cells have an anaerobic, glucose based metabolism rather than oxygen based; this is the basis of the "oxygen therapies", because oxygen supports the surrounding normal cells at the expense of tumour cells. Likewise diminishing the supply of glucose (derived from simple as opposed to complex carbohydrates) deprives the tumour cells of their fuel for growth. If we take it a step further and accept that we all at times have mutant cells present, but in normal health our immune system disposes of them. What glucose would seem to do is help them to survive rather than actually cause them.

bean_si, the links you give rather confirm my impression of Mannatech as a pyramid sales outfit with little to support their expensive product. I have seen the articles which suggest that it is usefull in ADHD, polymyalgia and various other common disorders for which there are at present no good proven orthodox remedies. Also like you, my memory (hazy some days) tells me that the body does its best to break down any carbohydrate to glucose as the end product. Snake oil had its salesmen too, as well as buyers. Best wishes to all, Karel.

Hello Tess, I have had just a cursory look at the site. I see a couple of problems. 1) it is a highly commercial company centered on money. This in itself does not bother me, but their reliance on anecdotes in the form of "warm and fuzzy" stories does. Seems like Pyramid selling in principle. 2) Current wisdom is that cancer cells thrive on glucose. To start feeding the body large quantities of sugars which are readily converted to glucose does not sound sensible to me without getting a logical explanation of their reasoning, other than financial independence through selling the product. I may be quite wrong in my cynicism, but please be cautious.

Hello Dave, Please let me start by explaining that Rachel and I are both retired and our "expertise" in alternative and complementary treatment is limited to information gathered over the past 6 months, is not based on expert knowledge, and any statements should not be taken as medical advice. My personal gain from Rachel's illness is the discovery of how much more than surgery and chemotherapy is available, and useful, in the management of cancer. I very much regret not having come to this realisation at a time when it might have been useful to my patients, and really hope that the "integrative medicine" takes off and allows the coexistence and amalgamation of all useful therapies. We may need to ditch the term "alternative medicine" first, because it is a divisive one. Prior to looking at the RECNAC website my main reference to Vitamin C was Dr Abraham Hoffer and you will find a lot of hits in Google under "Abraham Hoffer and Vitamin C and Cancer". It certainly seems to have some value, but as you have discovered, we need to find a form which is not as readily excreted by the body and is still safe to use from the point of view of overdosage. This problem seems to place some limits on the value of this as a mainstay treatment, but if it is making an obvious difference to your wellbeing why abandon it? Theoretically I was impressed by the alkalinisation idea as in Caesium and Ionised Water. How bad was your problem with Caesium? Oxygen therapy was another treatment which appeals for having an effect without apparent side effects. And as you know there are many more, we are giving Rife a go as well. There is no need to limit yourself to any one method. Tetrathiomolybdate is someting which has an effect on angiogenesis and may counteract the pulmonary fibrosis associated with Iressa - I have no idea if it has been trialled in this way as yet. Please do not take my statements as medical advice. They are comments made on topics which are quite new to me and I will continue trying to lessen my ignorance for a long time yet. Best wishes, Karel. Thought I should add my two cents worth as the patient! I would certainly endorse what Karel says about our lack of expertise on so-called alternative therapy. Despite medical training, I found myself in exactly the same position as all other Stage 4s and doing the same running around looking for answers. One thing which becomes very obvious, to misquote George Orwell, is that some Stage4s are more equal than others, and this of course translates to the varied reactions we have to treatments; for example, I'm about to start my fifth cycle of Cisplat and Gemcitabine, and have had fairly mild side effects, also Caesium didn't bother me except for mild nausea. I take vitamins, minerals and enzymes on the advice of nutritionists and others who have spent much longer than myself researching the topics, and I keep my oncologist informed on what I'm doing; I've also changed my diet to get rid of sugar, as little salt as possible{preferably potassium chloride }, as little fat as possible, and protein from vegetable or white meat and fish sources. So far the situation remains stable, but we continue to look for anything useful and apparently sensible. Many people in our situation do manage to beat the odds, and a forum like this is excellent for exchanging information and hope, providing we all remember that even if we become experts in our personal situation, we still must rely on the objective advice from the specialists in their own fields. All the very best, Rachel.

I should have added that we have the lists of frequencies available on the net as well as Nina Silver's Handbook. The problem we have is the huge number of possible frequencies with apparently little effort to subject them to some form of logical scrutiny. I would like to hear what experience others have had with this treatment, what machine they have been using and which frequencies they have found most useful.[/u]

My wife was diagnosed with NSCLC Stage 4 in July 2004. Since then she has had 4 courses of Cisplatin and Gemcitabene, 1 month's rest and is currently on her 5th chemo cycle. She has had a "moderate but significant reduction in the size of the primary tumour". We have done quite a lot of research into alternative treatment methods, and in addition to nutrition and supplement methods, have come across Royal Rife. We have bought a machine from "Resonant Light Co Ltd" but have not been able to give it much use so far because great caution is advised when patient is using alkylating chemotherapy (eg cisplatin). Does anyone have much experience with the use of Rife, in particular the question of appropriate frequencies?

Look in the thread "Not much posting here, is there?" just abit above your post; it is mainly about IV Vit C. Karel.