Geoff Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Hello All, We recently had a visit with Dr. Chang at Meridian Medical. http://www.meridianmedical.org/ He is a believes in using many nontraditional but scientificaly viable approaches to fighting cancer including celebrex and copper reduction with TM. He will be formulating a new protocol for fighting mom’s cancer. He prescribed an antibiotic called biaxin or clarithromycin. Apparently it has been shown to fight NSCLC. Apparently they are working on this in Japan and in one study found that it doubled the survival of the people taking it. Following are some links regarding the antibiotic. http://aac.asm.org/cgi/content/full/43/11/2787 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... =iconabstr http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/pr ... =48556.pdf http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/a ... 1:102197,1 Best, Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 26, 2004 Author Share Posted June 26, 2004 By the way mom is taking 250mg twice a day of biaxin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bean_si (Not Active) Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Thanks, now I have more ammunition to be put on antibiotics. I think I'll go to my primary as I'm not sure my onc will listen. I've been reading quite a bit lately on antibiotics and cancer. I think it was Erthrymocin I'd heard was being used with lung cancer. Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Great information. I have an appointment with Dr. Chang this afternoon and I am going to see if any of this is good for prevention of recurrence or new primary. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebbie Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Geoff, I recently saw a doctor from an Integrative Medicine Center in Philadelphia (Dr. Ira Cantor) who also recommends copper reduction therapy with TM (drug). Alisa -- TM can be used either during active cancer or to prevent a recurrence. I am currently debating whether or not I want to pursue the copper reduction therapy. My medical oncologist told me it sounded good, my radiation oncologist HIT THE ROOF and told me he was absolutely against it......if you discuss this with Dr. Chang, I would be interested in hearing his take on this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Dr. Chang didn't recommend it for me for prevention purposes. He has me on many Chinese herbs and mushrooms and other vitamins and supplements for prevention. I believe he reserves that, among other protocol, for a patient with active cancer. He does, however, check my copper levels every now and then when I get blood work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebbie Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I do know that the supplement "N Acetyl-Cysteine" can naturally reduce copper levels in the body. I also take a multi-vitamin that does NOT have copper or iron in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Antitumor antibiotics - These drugs are antibiotic chemotherapy agents, as opposed to antibiotics that work against bacteria. Antiluekemic chemotherapy agents in this category include drugs such as doxorubicin (Adriamycin) and mitoxantrone (Novantrone). Adriamycin is one of the antitumor antibiotics. They are like chemo in that they can cause bad side effects and sometimes can affect the heart. There is a clinical trial of inhaled doxorubicin - not sure if this could cause heart problems http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/N ... 72?order=1 The alternative approach uses nutritional supplements instead of prescription drugs. [2] Copper is found in whole grains, shellfish, legumes, liver, and nuts. Zinc and vitamin C may act as natural inhibitors of angiogenesis by inhibiting copper absorption. [4] Zinc supplements have been shown to decrease copper in adult males. However, copper reduction achieved with TM is far greater that what can be achieved through diet alone, according to Sofia D. Merajver, M.D., Ph.D., at University of Michagan. Caution Two side effects of using TM are anemia and low white blood cell counts. In addition, enlargement (hypertrophy) of the heart muscle can result from low copper conditions. A trained physician should monitor patients during CRT therapy, regardless of the approach taken http://www.nutrition.org/nutinfo/content/copp.shtml http://www.orgsites.com/ca/acco/CopperReduction.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Antitumor antibiotics - These drugs are antibiotic chemotherapy agents, as opposed to antibiotics that work against bacteria. Antiluekemic chemotherapy agents in this category include drugs such as doxorubicin (Adriamycin) and mitoxantrone (Novantrone). Adriamycin is one of the antitumor antibiotics. They are like chemo in that they can cause bad side effects and sometimes can affect the heart. There is a clinical trial of inhaled doxorubicin - not sure if this could cause heart problems http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/N ... 72?order=1 The alternative approach uses nutritional supplements instead of prescription drugs. [2] Copper is found in whole grains, shellfish, legumes, liver, and nuts. Zinc and vitamin C may act as natural inhibitors of angiogenesis by inhibiting copper absorption. [4] Zinc supplements have been shown to decrease copper in adult males. However, copper reduction achieved with TM is far greater that what can be achieved through diet alone, according to Sofia D. Merajver, M.D., Ph.D., at University of Michagan. Caution Two side effects of using TM are anemia and low white blood cell counts. In addition, enlargement (hypertrophy) of the heart muscle can result from low copper conditions. A trained physician should monitor patients during CRT therapy, regardless of the approach taken http://www.nutrition.org/nutinfo/content/copp.shtml http://www.orgsites.com/ca/acco/CopperReduction.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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