beatlemike Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi all.Am I reading this wrong or does it contadict itself? However,despite the fact screening procedures for lung cancer do not reduce the number of lung cancer deaths some screening procedures are effective at detecting lung cancer at earlier stages leading to a better chance of a cure. I have read this in a couple of differant web sites including this one and to me it seems to double talk itself. Or am I missreading it? Also I was wondering if people that have went thru chemo if their veins ever go back to normal. Seems i still have a hard time giving blood anymore ever since the chemo shrunk up my veins. Again thank you all very much for your time and for being here. May God bless and watch over us all. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Absolutely right, it does contradict itself. Better chance of cure seems to me that it would lower deaths, right? Hmmmm... If I have to choose ONE part of the sentence, I'll stick with the second part about a better chance of cure... Take care! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebywater Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I was thinking about this just today, and I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernrol Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Mike, There is a way it could not be a contradiction. You could have the same number of deaths and the same number of survivors, but more of the survivors would reach a cure status. So the scans would have more of the survivors reach a cure and fewer people would be living with cancer. This may not effect the number of deaths. Stay positive, Ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillise Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Here's how I think it goes: They find the LC very early. They treat it early. It recurs 5 years later and the person dies a l year agter that. The LC survival time is six years. They don't find the LC early. In fact they don't find it for 5 1/2 years. The person dies six months later. The survival time is six months. Early detection leads to longer survival, but not less deaths as both eventually died from the LC. The underlying premis is that once you have LC that is probably what they believe you are going to die from whether it is 2 years or 20 years later. At least that's the way I read the study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernrol Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I think having a better chance of being cured means that you have a better chance of not having the disease come back. If the same cancer reappears then you were not cured. Early detection is definitely better. Stay Positive, Ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie B Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 It is confusing and sometimes I think they like US confused. I've tried to figure it out for years, and I still can't make heads nor tails out of it. I have to say though that I am confused that your allowed to give blood??? I was told once we become a cancer patient and once we undergo chemo, we are no long able to give blood. The fear of tainted blood or cancer cells in the blood is why they say we can't do it anymore. Or maybe your talking about your blood work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlemike Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Im sorry. i did mean blood work or finding a vein to get blood out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggiesmom Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 In my case, the vein they used for my chemo treatments is fine. The one they used for drawing blood about 1,000 times ( ) has become harder to find. I think after a while a vein sort of shuts down from overuse. As for donating blood, I used to donate all the time prior to cancer. I was told that I could donate after 3 years of no chemo. If you still want to donate, you could check with the Red Cross to find out if you can. I know donated blood saved my life more than once. It is a wonderful thing to do. Double check about donating. Joanie ((())) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recce101 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 [ beatlemike ] I'm sorry. I did mean blood work or finding a vein to get blood out of. Sometimes it FEELS like we're giving...giving...gone!! Aloha, Ned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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