My understanding from the miedical community is that 10 years out without recurrence was considered "cured". Some docs have updated this notion to "once having cancer, never completely out of the woods". To me, it's knowing that and getting on with life. The more time out, the less likely it would occur. With surgery, if the surgeon truly "got it all" and we could be certain of that, then we could say, "cured". But that is difficult when the start of a tumor can be a group of cells that is initially undetectable. NED, or no evidence of disease, is the next best thing to "cured" in my book. I'll take it. Don