icbn Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Only 2 weeks into radiation and my throat already feels like I'm trying to swallow cactus wrapped in sandpaper. I don't know if it's the rad or a sore throat, it is high up in my throat. I figured it would be more under the breastbone. What is that Magic Mouthwash stuff called. Any other treatments for the throat? Thanks, Bill Quote
joanie55 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 My husband had radiation on the side of his face. He used Biotine mouthwash and toothpaste and it helped a lot. Quote
dchurchi Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Bill, Sorry you are having tough time with radiation. My Alan went through the same thing. Only very soft food that was not too hot or cold he could handle. I only know the Magic Mouthwash as Magic Mouthwash do not know the "true" name of it, but it did help. Quote
ginnyde Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Bill, ask them about Carafat. It was Earl's lifesaver. Quote
Kasey Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I've been looking for you and missing you, Bill!!! Good to see you! There are many here with lots of different remedies. Unfortunately I am NOT one of them. I just wanted to say hi! Other than the throat - which is a very big thing, I know - hope all is going along well. Give us more update when you can. Kasey Quote
Fay A. Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Bill, Those of us going through cancer treatments, whether chemo or radiation or both simultaneously, are prone to developing Thrush, a fungal. In addition to trying to the Magic Mouthwash preparations (druggists can mix up a batch for you), you should have your physician check your mouth and back of your throat for white patches. Worst sore throat I ever had came from Thrush. Did you ever ask about the Amifostine Injections? Quote
Ry Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Bill-- I just looked up the magic mouthwash for someone at work the other day. It is lidocaine and mylanta. Hope one of the suggestions on here works for you. Glad to see you back on. Quote
luvmydog2 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I remember the Magic Mouthwash all too well. What a taste. Anyway it does work. What works even better and taste great is GI Coctail. Hope all is well soon. Quote
Jyoung20 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I have heard it called "Magic Swizzle". I couldn't have made it without it. Just remember--the pain will eventually go away. GOD BLESS!! Jamie Quote
mhutch1366 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Hi! From my oncologist: I hope this helps. It helped me an AWFUL lot, because also on and off I had thrush, which made for really bad mouth sores. My oncologist prescribed this for me when I had difficulty eating post chemo and radiation: Directions: swish and spit about 1 spoonful (fifteen mls) every 30 minutes as needed, esp before eating. (you can swallow a little bit or a little more...) Mouth rinse: (pharmacist has to make it up) 25 cc of liquid Benadryl, 25 mg/cc stock solution 25 cc of Maalox 25 cc of lidocaine, viscous, 2% solution 25 cc of nystatin liquid. (stock solution) ----------------------------------------- There is also a premix similar to the above available in the Wash DC area by prescription called Gel-claire, but the nurse had no firsthand knowledge of it. Hope this helps! XOXOX MaryAnn _________________ Quote
karen335 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Doctor gave me a prescription for Mycelex 10mg Troche by MNeil and also the Carafate. It worked.. Prayers you find relief. Karen Quote
nikkala Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 No advise Bill just want to say glad to see you and keeping you in prayer. Hope one of these magic mouthwashes works and things get better from here. Take good care. Do you have a new grandbaby yet? Quote
icbn Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 You guys rule. I love this place. I didn't know if Magic Mouthwash was a generic term or specific. IT is apparently specific. My Rad Onc gave me a prescription for it today. She ( BTW the rumors were true, she is cute) gave a list of ingredients and the pharmacists mixed it. Fortunately he had the Bats ears and Newt eyes in stock. I also remembered someone mentioning Carafate before and could not bring up in my Chemo Brain memory banks what it was. Thanks for being there with the answer. Luvmydog, what is the GI Cocktail? Yesterday it felt like I was ripping my throat apart when I swallowed, after the Magic mouthwash it just feels like I'm rubbing it raw. Is that level of improvement about what everyone else experienced? Again, thanks to all for your kind replies. It's good to be home with all of you. Bill BTW My wife and I traveled to Madisonville, Ky to see my new Grandson this last weekend. I am one happy camper. Life is good. Quote
Irisheyes Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 My dads docs also suggested having some yogurt every day to prevent yeast. Dad eats tons of popsicles, he refuse to do the mouthwash, then again he refuse lots of things! Anyway he also finds that hard candy helps and like others have said sipping water thru the day. Hang in there and hope you are able to find some relief. Shannon Quote
Maryanne Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Welcome back Bill, it is good to see you posting again and we know that you are alright. I know your throat will get better and better as you use that magic stuff You grandson is adorable, your avitor is precious. Maryanne Quote
Bob-ellen Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Hello Bill, My husband (also a Bill) went through the radiation last year, and had the throat swallowing problem, as well. He was given the "Magic" thing, and had it on hand, just in case. Most of the time, sipping his tea (room temperature - couldn't take hot or cold) helped a great deal. Softer foods became the norm, and he arrived at the other end of the chemo/radiation regimen looking and feeling fine. As with your attention to your care, he knew that he had to stay nourished to help with the treatments. If he had needed to take the magic throat thing, he would have taken it, without question. Improvement was seen when the radiation ended. He returned to more regular eating as time elapsed after the regimen. He has felt so much better in the ensuing months. Barbara Quote
J.C. Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Hello Bill, You got all the good answers before, just want to say HELLO! and happy you checked in. Hugs Jackie Quote
Ann Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Bill...glad you got such great advice! You can always leave it up to these guys around here to be full of it...lol! So glad you are enjoying that new grandbaby. I hear there's nothing lile being a grandparent. I can't wait for my turn to roll around. Oh...also good news for you that your radiation oncologist is a looker! I can just imagine how you must look forward to appointments??? Glad you're throat is feeling better!!! We'be been missing your posts! Quote
nikkala Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Congrats Bill on the new Grandson. Hoping the mouthwash will help you at least enough to keep getting those needed foods down. Hang tough. "Life is Good" You are right Bill. Quote
marym Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 I had the mouthwash - it was mixed by the pharmicist and worked great. My included 4 items - lidocaine, nystatin, benedryl and maalox. I was told to swish and swallow. Do see a doctor - thrush can be painful and can also spread. It's easy to get rid of - I took a pill once a day for 2 weeks. Good luck. Mary Quote
luvmydog2 Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Luvmydog, what is the GI Cocktail? I am not sure what is in it Bill. My doctor ordered it for me while I was in hospital. I know they mixed it there. I ask for it after I went home but never got it. Has anyone else heard of it or perhaps one of our nurses can get us the answer. Quote
battleofbrooklyn Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 My mom used Gel-Clair for mouth/throat discomfort, mainly sores, when she was on chemo. Said it worked great. Most pharmacies can special order it for you. It comes in packets you mix with water and gargle with. Good luck. Quote
bethluvswill13 Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Dear Bill, Its probably from the radiation. My dad had a hard time with that...he was prescribed Magic mouthwash, that was actually on the prescription. It was never filled for my dad, but it had a lot of coating medicines in it. My dad's doctor said it helped a lot of people. When my dad refused the medicines the doctor said they could shoot it in a different angle, but it might not help the pain. It decided to stick it out and did. Hope this helps...Beth Quote
ginnie Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Magic mouthwash is called Clack's solution. It works for some, didn't for me. Quote
slinaresholz Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 How about jello or pudding? When my friend was very ill and lost his swallow reflex, he seemed to be able to handle pudding fine. Sharon Quote
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